Page 4 of 9

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 18:52
by -Majin-
And heres how i disagree with most of you, You say that the forum wasnt hacked? how do you know? hm? You blame it all on hitman because he had root. Heres something of the similar story. I had a [4] forum, after causing hell in dx, MY forum was deleted completely same code and the way [RTK] forums looks like. Does that mean i was fed up being called all sorts of name and i decided one day to say *love* you dx and im leaving by deleting what? nothing was spoken in there about hacking anything. Yet it was hacked by [A]. Think of that before you point your dirty fingers at people and say they look guilty in your point of view.

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 19:30
by Jima B
[quote="-[RTK]JIN-"]-Majin- here, seeing as you all have different opinions, here's mine.

Seeing as you all point your fingers at hitman, think of these facts. How can someone whos a member of rtk and with the RTK member part which only allows you to view the rtk personal business causes the forum to disappear?
...
Now whoever hacked RTK forums must have hacked the root, which is KM's password.
Havent read most of the topic, I will after this post, forgive me if I am repeating or I missed a point, or something has been cleared up. Many apologies.

KM is not the root admin
Hitman is. No matter what permissions he uses, he still has access to the admin CP. He is the only one with the ability to take down the forums.
In addition he was on MSN, and the forums, talking to me about a topic, expressing his disliking for it.
After the topic went, he was offline.

So either HE DID IT
or Someone did it through hacking Invision free...

In addition DZ is helping us in a great way with our new forums... Hitman didn't map for RTK, the only RTKM map he made was improperly tagged, had no in-game ads, and had several versions with numerous other prefixes.
He only found out he could access a few weeks ago, and overstepped his permissions a few times, from logging in as a moderator, to locking topics and running the forums how he wanted.

So yes.... if no high grade hacking was involved, Hitman did it.
Obtw.... Not many people knew Hitman was the 1# account, and would have hacked an admin, assuming Hitman's account was worthless.
Even if they did hack him, the Admin CP link wouldnt have showed.... you had to type that in manually cos of his permissions, and know hitmans password to access it...

So that's the evidence so far.

I'd say Hitman did it or someone hacked Invisionfree and deleted it...

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 19:40
by ~
jima b wrote: Now whoever hacked RTK forums must have hacked the root, which is KM's password.
Havent read most of the topic, I will after this post, forgive me if I am repeating or I missed a point, or something has been cleared up. Many apologies.
As i said root was probally hacked with SQLinjection this has happened in the past so no surprise there.
Jima B wrote: KM is not the root admin
Hitman is. No matter what permissions he uses, he still has access to the admin CP. He is the only one with the ability to take down the forums.
In addition he was on MSN, and the forums, talking to me about a topic, expressing his disliking for it.
After the topic went, he was offline.

So either HE DID IT
or Someone did it through hacking Invision free...
Like i said before i would of just ban chris or deletted topic if i had problem with it. I had closed it up once before...
Jima B wrote: In addition DZ is helping us in a great way with our new forums... Hitman didn't map for RTK, the only RTKM map he made was improperly tagged, had no in-game ads, and had several versions with numerous other prefixes.
He only found out he could access a few weeks ago, and overstepped his permissions a few times, from logging in as a moderator, to locking topics and running the forums how he wanted.
I did map for [RTK] 1 so far [RTKM]_Storage_Yard-rev. may not been tagged right but it is for [RTK].

I hadn't ruined any topics i closed a few that where leading to flames like a moderator should do they jobs.

Also the new forums where setup by Redfire not DZ
Jima B wrote: So yes.... if no high grade hacking was involved, Hitman did it.
Obtw.... Not many people knew Hitman was the 1# account, and would have hacked an admin, assuming Hitman's account was worthless.
Even if they did hack him, the Admin CP link wouldnt have showed.... you had to type that in manually cos of his permissions, and know hitmans password to access it...

So that's the evidence so far.

I'd say Hitman did it or someone hacked Invisionfree and deleted it...
This still proves nothing and i'm shocked to see this negative post from you jima ;-) I think you done xposed yourself..

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 20:16
by -Majin-
its embarrassing to turn against your own fellow clan members over what others say about them. Pathetic in my point of view, theres no real evidence that hitman was responsible for any of this, yet you all treat him like he murdered your family or something. I've noticed that a lot of people hate hitman for his own way of showing who he really is and what he isnt, people arent perfect, and for you to expect him to measure up to something he cant its *loving* pathetic. The stories that you guys are saying doesn't add up to a person going ballistic and deleting the entire forum. I just dont see that, even when i've had mod powers or admin powers, something has bothered me id ban the person causing it and lock the topic since its another head ache, i wouldn't delete the entire forum over it. For all i know it could be any of you sitting at home right now saying its hitman but really its you who set him up for it. :roll:

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 20:27
by Kaiden
I'd say Hitman did it or someone hacked Invisionfree and deleted it...
Amg conspiracy. I say it was the CIA.

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 20:27
by ~
-[RTK]JIN- wrote:its embarrassing to turn against your own fellow clan members over what others say about them. Pathetic in my point of view, theres no real evidence that hitman was responsible for any of this, yet you all treat him like he murdered your family or something. I've noticed that a lot of people hate hitman for his own way of showing who he really is and what he isnt, people arent perfect, and for you to expect him to measure up to something he cant its fcuking pathetic. The stories that you guys are saying doesn't add up to a person going ballistic and deleting the entire forum. I just dont see that, even when i've had mod powers or admin powers, something has bothered me id ban the person causing it and lock the topic since its another head ache, i wouldn't delete the entire forum over it. For all i know it could be any of you sitting at home right now saying its hitman but really its you who set him up for it. :roll:
I feel what u mean it saddenings me to think that a [RTK] member would not have any Honor like this and turn on his fellow clansmen after being threw thick and thin its truly a shame...

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 20:29
by Jima B
So why isn't Hitman on the invision free website asking to have the forum recovered?

Never said it was him...
Just saying, there is no proof in his favour
There are many items of proof against him, and they all add up.

As for DZ not creating the new forums, he is still helping us with them... I never said how.

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 20:30
by ~
Jima B wrote:So why isn't Hitman on the invision free website asking to have the forum recovered?

Never said it was him...
Just saying, there is no proof in his favour
There are many items of proof against him, and they all add up.

As for DZ not creating the new forums, he is still helping us with them... I never said how.
Thats generally awaste of time the best thing to do is re-establish communications and move on...

besides KM posted on invisionfree before i got to it.

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 20:34
by Kaiden
Jima B wrote:So why isn't Hitman on the invision free website asking to have the forum recovered?

Never said it was him...
Just saying, there is no proof in his favour
There are many items of proof against him, and they all add up.

As for DZ not creating the new forums, he is still helping us with them... I never said how.
Invision couldn't care less if one of their free forums is lost. Only the actual paying members. (As they have millions of free members).

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 20:44
by ~
Kaiden wrote:
Jima B wrote:So why isn't Hitman on the invision free website asking to have the forum recovered?

Never said it was him...
Just saying, there is no proof in his favour
There are many items of proof against him, and they all add up.

As for DZ not creating the new forums, he is still helping us with them... I never said how.
Invision couldn't care less if one of their free forums is lost. Only the actual paying members. (As they have millions of free members).
that's why i said it was generally a waste of time to mess with them i've had dealings in the past with this sort of things.

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 20:48
by IchoTolot
hmmm ... I'm wrong or this is the first time i read Invision closed the forum?

Do i read exactly?

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 20:53
by ~][FGS][Nobody~
Ne, ich glaube du hast gelesen, dass invision sich nicht drum schert, wenn eines der free-forums futsch geht.
Es tut nix daf

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 21:37
by ~[FGS]SaSQuATcH~
-[RTK]JIN- wrote:[4] was hacked by [A]
By the way, was that ever proven? I guess not :P


I suggest you not to try and blame Jima for not defending you because he has no reason to do so when you've got nothing to defend yourself with either but attacking others.

The evidences are not influenced by anyone's personal feelings about you, no matter how much people hate you. I'll try to list them:

- When I asked Jima to reopen the topic where you were spreading lies about [FGS], he told me that you weren't "happy" about it - you wanted the topic to remain closed but you couldn't do anything against it, Jima is a little bit more important in that clan than you'll ever be.
- When I posted my message, all you said was "you're a homosexual :-D " - That proved me right even more and it means you've lied before, why wouldn't you be lying now?
- The incident happened between midnight and 1am and it's very unlikely that some evil dude was accidently there, looking for a reason to hack your account and shut down the forum.
- Invisionfree says that the forum was shut down by account #1 aka root admin aka You. They can't be lying can they?
- You were online when the incident happened both on forums, both on MSN and after the forum was gone, suddenly you disappeared (running from responsibility)

What you've got:

- You claim that your account was probably hacked and we're pointing at you because we hate you and we are desperate. - That's ridiculus, as I've said, the facts aren't influenced by personal feelings, even you know that.
- You don't have a reason to shut down [RTK] - Actually you do. You don't want people to see your lies proven false. Instead you try to escape from them by deleting a whole forum. Maybe you just wanted a little vengance on Jima for "betraying" you. :-D I don't know what else you've got against [RTK] but you've earned yourself a great reputation again ;)

By the way, you can thank yourself the whole situation, you were crying about a damn yellow card you got for a very good reason, then started to spread lies and bullsh1t about me and my clan.


Just ask 3 Neutral people who they think is guilty, they will tell you a familiar name ;)
i've decided not to return to this forum.
Yet, you are still here, reminding me of HDD :roll:

On the other hand, Majin, I don't understand why you're trying to desperatly defend Hitman. You are blaming DestroyerZero when he turns out to be actually helping [RTK] and you don't have a single proof against him. I know he disagrees with you on a couple things but that's no reason to destroy RTK's forum. You should accept the fact that Hitman is guilty and move on. He doesn't have much left in RTK anyway.

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 21:54
by Jima B
[quote="~

Posted: 05 Jan 2009, 21:58
by [FGS]FlyingGhost
[quote="~][FGS][Nobody~"]Ne, ich glaube du hast gelesen, dass invision sich nicht drum schert, wenn eines der free-forums futsch geht.
Es tut nix daf