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Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 01:52
by ShadowRunner
TheWolf wrote:What's the proper way to add unbreakable windows on doors without the weird invisible spot where the brush meets the door frame itself? I remember someone telling me there was an effect that fixed it.
I took the liberty of re-posting the question here, as I rarely make them in movers. I would use transparent window from add special and I don't know of any effect which fixes "bsp" like issues.

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 17:05
by Alvind
Make it semi solid if its just a little window.

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 18:42
by ~][FGS][Nobody~
ShadowRunner wrote:
TheWolf wrote:What's the proper way to add unbreakable windows on doors without the weird invisible spot where the brush meets the door frame itself? I remember someone telling me there was an effect that fixed it.
I took the liberty of re-posting the question here, as I rarely make them in movers. I would use transparent window from add special and I don't know of any effect which fixes "bsp" like issues.
You're referring of a window for transparency only or is it required to be breakable too?

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 06:13
by atrey65789
If ya wanna use some fancy sauce, you can have a door with a square hole in the top middle, then make a seperate glass mover, put it in the space, and set its attach tag to the door's tag. That way it will be more realistic for breaking-and-entering maps, break the door-window and unlock the door, know what I'm saying?

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 17:19
by ShadowRunner
Alvind wrote:Make it semi solid if its just a little window.
In a mover?

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 20:07
by Alvind
Yeah just make the window a semi solid and a door a solid before you intersect it all. Then create mover etc

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 22:20
by Magus
My method of preference (because I'm a nub) was to shrink the 'window' part of the door brush by a unit so the edges of it don't touch the frame...

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 01:05
by Alvind
That would also work, done that before :-D not great if its a dark coloured glass tex

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 07:14
by synthetic
Magus wrote:My method of preference (because I'm a nub) was to shrink the 'window' part of the door brush by a unit so the edges of it don't touch the frame...
And that allows one to surprise players with funky snipes ;D I also found a way other than crosshair colour to scan for that opening: Light augmentation, it passes through the small hole if your crosshair is in the right position. :alc:

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 13:56
by ShadowRunner
not possible to have breakable window inside unbreakable door, if it swings I guess, but you could have actual glass in some types of door/portal I guess.

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 14:10
by atrey65789
ShadowRunner wrote:not possible to have breakable window inside unbreakable door, if it swings I guess, but you could have actual glass in some types of door/portal I guess.

It's not inside, when you make the door, you leave a square hole in the top half, that's where the window goes.

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 30 Aug 2013, 15:23
by ShadowRunner
ye my bad, incorrect use of English.

Who needs windows anyway, we want traps and surprises!!!

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 31 Aug 2013, 21:33
by Magus
synthetic wrote:
Magus wrote:My method of preference (because I'm a nub) was to shrink the 'window' part of the door brush by a unit so the edges of it don't touch the frame...
And that allows one to surprise players with funky snipes ;D I also found a way other than crosshair colour to scan for that opening: Light augmentation, it passes through the small hole if your crosshair is in the right position. :alc:
Hey, if you can aim through a half unit gap to pick someone off through a door, more power to you. The majority wouldn't be able to do that, though :D

That said, one could easily make a recess such that the window brush could fill the whole frame without 'glitching' and without being able to shoot through it...

Re: Adding windows to doors...

Posted: 01 Sep 2013, 15:54
by Whiplash
Magus wrote:My method of preference (because I'm a nub) was to shrink the 'window' part of the door brush by a unit so the edges of it don't touch the frame...
True, but then as said you risk creating sniping holes, but there are ways around it, if you're perpared to use multiple brushes and work at 1 Grid Level, but my solution is difficult to explain.