The conspiracy is over...

Elemental · Post by **Elemental** » 25 Jun 2006, 05:28

First off ShadowRunner, I have also seen this "document" and you have twisted it all up.. No where does it say that IO is in on this; it simply mentions not to rule that out yet. It does not say IO IS doing it. I think what you posted is stupid, lame, and totally inaccurate.... with any luck ppl will do what i'm doing and not listen to this crap.

m45t3rs4d0w8 · Post by **m45t3rs4d0w8** » 25 Jun 2006, 05:51

DO you want to know something? I am on the 'Evil' Anti-Godz forums
ShadowRunner... We are planning to take over the world and no one will
stop us now! MEHAHAHA! LOL!

These forums are not to attack Godz but to talk about Godz. Suggest solutions.

Elemental · Post by **Elemental** » 25 Jun 2006, 08:05

The document was only meant to track evidence using a method of finding a pattern. I planned to use it to see if i could use this as a way of not only logging everything from the time this started, but also to see if i could locate anybody that would be suspects... ShadowRunner has completely fabricated what the document says, I don't make IO look bad, I don't even mention that IO is in on it. I think the closest I come is I say that I am still unclear, but this isn't referring to the clan as a whole, this refers to individuals. ShadowRunner has done a good job of making sure that I got screwed over big time on this. so I may as well blab away. I logged everything that I could find about this topic, and any topic that would in some form co-exist with this. me being kicked from IO. I put the very convo that got me booted, the one that has certain ppl saying that I was the insitgater, the one that JC never would look at. I logged everything. this document contains, things that i've said to NC, a couple of convos I had with him, Posts that I thought would help later on, just general stuff like that. I only sent this document to 2 ppl, ShadowRunner aka the biggest liar on earth, and one other person. I did this for protection, I knew that by making this I was putting a lot at risk, i wanted a back up in case something happened... sadly, one of the ppl I trusted with this, turned out to be Untrustworthy... But I'll take care of that problem in my own time and way.

synthetic · Post by **synthetic** » 25 Jun 2006, 13:25

Kamikaze wrote:So, because Smookie and Deja are guilty that must mean those documents are true. That's pretty much what I gor from that last post. Like I said before, we're not disputing the fact that Deja and Smookie had anything to do with this, it's all the other people you have implicated. Mainly IO, who you seem to hint at being at the center of this, which is completely untrue. It strikes me as odd that you said that numerous IO members were involved in this, especially since the two people who seem to believe in this conspiracy, you and Elemental, hate IO more than anyone else. I can guarantee that whatever this document says, IO has no involvement whatsoever. JC is retired from this game and doesn't care about it at all, Grubby is away at school, Whip, Cereal, and Daemon have stated numerous times in the past that they are against any type of sabotaging of servers. So, in the end all you've managed to do is provide proof that known hackers are hackers, but have provided no evidence that anyone else you have implicated is truly involved, so until you can provide indisputable proof that this document is legitimate it will merely be seen as a falsification and bear no credence whatsoever.

I have no reason to doubt the chat log provided by alex is a false, as some of that was what I expected anyway, I have no idea about what "other" document you talk about and honestly saying I simply do not care, some people here like to live in conspiracies and fight war against other clans. I think its stupid. I've blocked out the existence of a clan called 'Alpha' simply because their attitude, flaming style and admin abuse is fucked up, and thats as far as I've gone with clan vs clan discussions.
I strongly advise both sides in this IO matter to simply stand down and play you game. And kamekaze your clan leader showed fanatic will to destroy certain clans in the history where as one, perhaps two people on these boards like conspiracies.
And this anti godz thing is a farse. NoChance likes to have noobs in his server and noobs like to be in his server, by forcing his server down FGS takes the full responsibility of keeping dx alive where as it was clear DejaVu can never do that for considerable time.
I suggest you watch what you accept on messengers or via any other way, ignore the clans you want to ignore, defend and report their actual actions, in the end the clan dealing damage to the other clan will come to be as the agressor as it is.

m45t3rs4d0w8 · Post by **m45t3rs4d0w8** » 26 Jun 2006, 00:54

unk9977@hotmail.com
Send me Virus/Trojans anytime

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 26 Jun 2006, 02:08

I see it all over godz and I see it here - I am being accused of war against IO and enjoying conspiracy...
I cant speak for elemental, but cya all...bye bye...
To pin the blame on shadow for any of this is pure foolishness...

I'm going away for a while and you will see the problem still exists whether Im here or not...existed b4 i was here and will long after as long as you see "both sides" I am not part of anything. I dont hack computers and destroy them like Alex or Smook.
Icho - you have my e-mail, when ppl can stop accusing and lying, I come back...

DXC Imperial will not agree with any of you, he lost his PC.This thing is real, wake up ppl...

Elemental - if it aint a fake document, where are u? Why are u not responding to Reclaimer and IO?

m45t3rs4d0w8 · Post by **m45t3rs4d0w8** » 26 Jun 2006, 02:12

DejaVu's Post on the Anti-Godz Forums that he wishes to share with all.
http://godzserver.forumsplace.com/post-9323.html#9323

m45t3rs4d0w8 wrote: It's the basic crap on Godz Forums. Reclaimer the dip-metabolic end product claiming no one
cheats, Player_13 wiping NC's ass, etc. As I say... The Usual.

Everyone agrees on a poll that Dejavu is the most irratating person in DX.

NoChance still believes some from IO are involved in this. Dejavu
is getting reported about the usage of his school bandwith to
run his Anti-Godz Server. Anybodys will probably be taken down
to. Anyobodys server is on the same IP range, etc.

Jesus loves me.

nothing will be taken down. why?

first of all, uni connection is shared by many students that live near, they get 100mbit line for free, no charge, if they live in "appartments for students" (i dont know how you say to that, but i hope you know). they can use it for anything as they want, as long as its not for bussines and warez FTP and stuff like that. even when warez FTP is reported for exmple, it usually takes months to get it sorted out. however, i see no reason why would someone try to put down some free gaming servers. i can give you a list of some gaming servers on uni connection. as i said, as long theres no money for service around, there are no problems. maybe this sounds odd for you, but thats how it is.

secondly. these pcs are public for students. they were put in with reason for our usage. and as it happens over years, these pcs are now must for many students. they wont get removed. in worst case what can happen is, that they will format c: etc. and guess what, then i just have some minutes work for each one to put dx server on again.

anyway, if i buy one machine, put it there, it will be in completely legal, using unis connection and you could send 1000000 of mails, and noone would give a *love*. anyway, has anyone given any *love* yet? no, and i doubt anyone will.

now about ddos godz server; that was funny.

Reply from 209.101.224.101: bytes=32 time=754ms TTL=49
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

thats how it looked on that friday (black friday for nochanc, his nuby godz server and all nubies).

however, godz server wasnt under ddos attack for long time. but server was off for a week or so. damn, what did these newbs say on godz forum? crying where the server is? ah, 2 bad i dont have access to that forum, i would love to see that.

nochanc, maybe you are asking why did i do that? i did that as a payback for all these years of destroying dxmp community you did. well eh, you and your fellas will say that you saved dxmp. if you are smart enough, you would know, that you were playing god and changing the most of dxmp to suits you. to do that, its very simple. you need a 24/7 server, that can hold as much as possible players. put in something that will urine off better players (exmaple 20mm and shitty maps) and put in something what newbs will like (maps where turrets are on spawn, 20mm and stuff). sooner or later, you server starts gaining population. now, this is not so community-effective in short time, but speaking for long time, it can completely rip off the true face of dxmp as it used to be. your newbies dont know what augs or skills are anymore, and thats very very sad, also very sad for you, cos i remember you were claiming that you prefer augs! what an irony. now take a look again. you reordered dxmp community to suits you, your low 50 ping, your 20000 netspeed (while others are forced to 9000), plus you created that godz rifle, so you can get kills even easier. but youve never asked what do new players (not n00bs) think about dxmp after all that. when a new player checks out the game, it will of course go to most populated server, he wont join empty server of course. as it happens, the most populated server is yours (discussed up there why is it so). new player joins your server and there are 2 options from this one: if this player is trying first online game ever, is not very smart, is of low age, he will prolly like it and play and stay on it. but if a talented new player comes, that have already played many other online games and is smarter, he will just say: WHAT THE *love* IS THIS? *loving* SHITTY GAME, *loving* UNBALANCED metabolic end product, LAG, PING, BUGS! *love* THIS, I RATHER JUST LOOK AT EMPTY SCREEN FFS! dxmp used to be the hardest online game, for smart talented players that could hold something more than just pressing 4 arrow keys and moving mause around. what you made out of it is a shitty, female sex organ, lame, unbalanced, laggy game with shitty maps (produced and called GODZ). your server is one of the most laggiest ever - if you dont have enough bandwidth to host custom maps - dont host them!

im not loosing my words saying you are an idiot and stuff, you can realize that on your own already. btw, arent u like 40 or 50 or there around? as you claim of course. some ppl would say you are 15, but in the other hand, i doubt any 15y kid would have such possibilty and motivation to host server with such strict hand. so prolly you trully are in your 40. thats even worse! where do u find time to check all these logs of your server, searching for ppls, making low ping lists. damn, that must take you like 6 hours or work per day at least. now you must have a job aswell, to get money for paying your connection and stuff. theres the main question then: where do u have wife? and kids and stuff? a guy in your age rather bothering with online games than having a family :blink: thats hilarious!

ive sacraficed 20 minutes of my precious time, when i have to study to make the hardest exam in this year (thats how studing medicine looks like yeah). you, who have access, pls post this on godz forums. thanks

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 26 Jun 2006, 02:50

Random wrote:defend and report their actual actions

err....look what's happening to me when i do that!

When I defend...ppl say I am starting a war with IO and are flaming.
When I report...ppl say I am starting a war with IO and are flaming.

I reccomend...just play the game.

The funny thing is that if you play Counter-Strike, the servers at the top of the list are usually avoided by most people, or are pworded, or just full of addicts anyway...the nubs get to about 50th on the list for a good game...

PuNk · Post by **PuNk** » 26 Jun 2006, 05:56

Look shadowrunner dont try to mix in a few words you looked up on google, For one Yes Jc is leaving for good and he doesnt care what happends..so what, number two IO isnt behind metabolic end product. so get off of IO's back, and for three i seen the document and have my own original copy before you even knew what was going on so whatever you alterd and made Elemental look like an ass, its not gonna work. Leave the conspiracy alone what are you gonna acomplish? to make sure everyone knows about it? We already do. Hacking, copy and burning discs? come on man your not 007. grow up a bit would ya? :roll:

Elemental · Post by **Elemental** » 26 Jun 2006, 06:02

Thank you, Now i'm glad I sent that document to 2 ppl. Now you see why I did that ShadowRunner, I had a feeling that you would do this, so I sent this to 2 ppl because: A) In case something happened to my pc. and B) I didn't fully trust you. Hopefully he just cleared everything up... Like I said, no where do I say IO is involved or behind the server crap. this is somethign ShadowRunner made up, or misunderstood something... I don't know, Since he has refused to even talk to me at any point during all of this.. so you guys should take that into consideration also. If he's telling the truth, why wouldn't he even talk to me... either way, he forgot one thing, I have his map on my computer......

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 26 Jun 2006, 11:21

1. The majority of members are IO, Daemon, Whiplash, Kamikaze etc...Elemental was IO too remember
That is fact and no lie. You can not say IO are not involved.

2. I am 37 not 17, elemental get your facts right and realize i never lied to you.

3. Elemental - dont threaten me by pm

4. I didn't twist any document, I pasted into word and forwarded to NC and other ppl, including CG, who then sent ME info which suggests that Reclaimer and Cajun are behind the forum crashings...another criminal offence.

Elemental, you joined the anti-GODZ forum too, but you then claimed to be spying on them... so why didnt you let your clan know what you are doing.
Instead you shared this info with IO members...

I am not responding to other false accusations, because Elemental's words will be proved to be false in time...

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 26 Jun 2006, 11:26

Elemental, you *loving* 3 yr old dipshit - If you had any idea how long that map took shadow to create and build up into what it is now, you'd shut the *love* up and send that *loving* map back to him.

You're a mapper aswell, for fucks sake - you get rid of that file, and you're disassociated from anything involving myself or shadowrunner, then I will help him on it and make edits to it myself for him, and host i on the DXMS server. You of all people should know how angry and sad you get when someone takes your map and uses it as they see fit.

And as for DejaVu - I've talked to him on MSN about this, and he has a point - he doesn't want to harm any other servers on DX, in fact he respects FGS for giving people the choice of augs or non augs. We've had more people entering other servers, if only for 0 aug matches. I myself love 0 augs more than augs, and I think GODZ going down was the best thing that ever happened.

Dej also said that IO have nothing to do with any conspiracy that he knows of... if the clan isn't using one of his servers, he doesn't want to know anyway

synthetic · Post by **synthetic** » 26 Jun 2006, 12:06

this thread should be locked. map issue between shadow and element should be solved asap and proper action should be taken. dejavu is a thug, thinks like a thug, works like a thug, will never understand what he did wrong, similary to NC. With reasonable people retired the game is taken over by people that hunger for power or want to create their own very temporary environment for games with gamers that no know ethical boundaries or privacy limits.
When I might've seen something in dejavus plans his fiddle with ddos for example erased every single thing he might have accomplished im my eyes.
I was told interesting things about messiah and his try with UT and it explained his nature some.
DX can be viewed as three groups: unconcious noob mass, players that want to enjoy the game, players that want to own the game. You might say you cant have one without other and we've all been in the first group, but if the game has been ruled by the first group for years only to be slowly taken over by the third group, again? the game will be of less and less interest for those who are after something relaxing. As a result noob mass will also be forced to leave, through dejavus plan few might join the 'owning' mass but eventually the portion of gamers in the game will remain ridiculously small. By the owning portion i also mean the constant flaming in game and offgame that follors the players, and much more.
So lets enjoy the maps some make or what have been made, enjoy clans like FGS or other reasonable options, and try to take the last fun there is.

*edit: nvm with typos, no time to edit all that. if you wish, dont read this rant.*

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 26 Jun 2006, 14:14

I agree... lock it...you all started using bad language.

I am noob mass, I only report abuse of power, I am not interested in power other than kicking teamkillers.

I was not sure about Elemental, that is why I shared his info with us all.

You will notice on GODZ that Reclaimer has been saying I spread rumours he's involved, but it aint true, I published the forum member list, he aint on it. But in fact Rec and Cajun are involved in the destruction of CG forums...proof has been sent to admins...

this goes back to your point about "unethical"...

People are abusing admin and using real life crime to win a game. The game is 5 years old...someone pointed out how good that game must be then...

Which is why I will continue mapping, but until the illegal and immoral postings and lies and activities stop, my maps is probably all you will see of me.

Magus · Post by **Magus** » 26 Jun 2006, 14:38

I can't help but think you're wasting your time.

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